• I don't always hate this, but sometimes would prefer to not have it. Can it be disabled?


    I have searched the manual, but can find no mention of how to turn it off. Is it possible?

  • Can#t be disabled by the usual ways and I haven't heard of somebody who was able to turn if off via coding.

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  • When stationary with the brakes on, can I assume the motor is then completely off and not sucking power from the batteries trying to move the car when it cannot? Then as the brakes are released, power is fed to the motor to make it 'creep'?

  • When stationary with the brakes on, can I assume the motor is then completely off and not sucking power from the batteries trying to move the car when it cannot?

    No, you can't.

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  • With the hand brakes: yes

    With the normal brakes: no


    .. sorry, wasn't clear in my original post.

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    smart fortwo Coupé 453er EQ 22 kW-Lader, 05/2018 - 05/2021; 109.000km


    "Aus Gaspedal wird Spaßpedal"

    - Smart

  • So in a German post I asked your question. Turns out you can actually turn off the creep mode by coding the car with special equipment. But you quickly notice it's not tuned for that at all. The smart then spits out error messages, drives rather uncomfortable and stutters from time to time.


    So the answer to your question is: Yes, it's doable. But no, it's not worth it at all.

  • With the hand brakes: yes

    With the normal brakes: no

    Can I clarify this further.


    Are you saying that with the normal brakes on, there is NO power drain on the battery (so it's not actually trying to creep forward while stationary with foot on the brake pedal), but with (just?) the handbrake on, it WOULD be trying to creep and hence draining the battery?


    Not that I would ever try to use the handbrake while it was in Drive, but just wanting to understand what it is doing or trying to do.

  • Are you saying that with the normal brakes on, there is NO power drain on the battery

    Yes. It's like a battery powered power tool. It doesn't need power while standstill. There is no such thing as a idling electric motor.


    (so it's not actually trying to creep forward while stationary with foot on the brake pedal), but with (just?) the handbrake on, it WOULD be trying to creep and hence draining the battery?

    Yes

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    smart fortwo Cabrio 453er EQ 22 kW-Lader, 04/2021 - 08/2023; 42.000 km

    smart fortwo Coupé 453er EQ 22 kW-Lader, 05/2018 - 05/2021; 109.000km


    "Aus Gaspedal wird Spaßpedal"

    - Smart

  • Yes. It's like a battery powered power tool. It doesn't need power while standstill. There is no such thing as a idling electric motor.

    Er yes I get that, but creep mode means power is being applied to the motor and draining the battery and that could still be occurring while stationary with foot on the brake.


    Or they have the car programmed to stop applying power to the motor in that situation and simply start applying power again as the brakes are released. Done well, it would be impossible to tell which - without additional measuring equipment.


    Hence trying to establish how the car is actually designed to operate and I'm thinking (hoping) you are saying it is designed to NOT power the motor at all while stationary with foot on the brake. To be draining the battery unnecessarily like that would be a very poor design, but manufacturers have done worse. ;)

  • Er yes I get that, but creep mode means power is being applied to the motor and draining the battery and that could still be occurring while stationary with foot on the brake.

    The car is clever enough to not power the motor while you stand on the breaks. It's not a ICE automatic. ;)


    Or they have the car programmed to stop applying power to the motor in that situation and simply start applying power again as the brakes are released. Done well, it would be impossible to tell which

    Done well, you would feel that. When hitting power and the break at the same time, the car's back goes down. ;)

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    smart fortwo Coupé 451er ED 3,7 kW-Lader, 05/2013; > 280.000km (bei 250.000 km 22 kW nachgerüstet)

    smart fortwo Cabrio 453er EQ 22 kW-Lader, 04/2021 - 08/2023; 42.000 km

    smart fortwo Coupé 453er EQ 22 kW-Lader, 05/2018 - 05/2021; 109.000km


    "Aus Gaspedal wird Spaßpedal"

    - Smart

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